Episode 188

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Are you creating your own reality or living an existence based on prior fears and old beliefs? We all have the ability to create our own reality. By simply shifting our focus on what we want in our life rather than what we don’t want, is the first step in consciously transforming old patterns in our lives into new empowering ones. Though it may take some practice and sometimes a lot of effort, you can change your life for the better. With enough persistence, trust and patience, anything is possible. 

Our next guest, Kelsi Davies, is a Content Creator, Psychic Medium, Actress, Singer and Dancer who has found success in creating her own reality. She currently has three singles released; “Done,” “Darker,” and “Heartbeats,” and for fans of haunted adventures, check out her app “Kelsi Davies: Haunt Escape” for iOS and Android devices.

Kelsi also hosts the podcast “InTALKxicated” where she and her guests talk about conspiracies, ghost experiences, mysteries, and much more. Kelsi is a frequent collaborator of PrideHouseLA and has appeared in countless music videos and short films. 


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[00:00:00] Bob Wheeler: Welcome to another episode of money you should ask where everyone has something they can teach you. I’m your host, Bob Wheeler. In this episode, we are going to explore why we do what we do when it comes to money as a CPA for the past 30 years. Wait, let me say 25, because that makes me sound younger. I have seen it all when it comes to money and emotions.

And if you think I’m talking about my. I’m not, I’m talking about myself. My relationship with money has been, and sometimes still is an emotional rollercoaster. Maybe that’s something you’re also familiar with. Good news. You and I are not the only ones. Our next guest is going to share their money, beliefs, money blocks, and life challenges as well.

Buckle your seatbelt and enjoy the ride.

Our next guest is Kelsi Davies as a content creator, psychic medium actress, singer, and dancer. She has gained more than a million followers across all social media platforms. She currently has three singles called Dunn, darker and heartbeats, and has an app called Kelsi Davies, haunt escape. She hosts the podcast in talk cicadas where she and her guests talk about conspiracies, ghost experiences, mysteries, and mud.

Kelsi is a frequent collaborator of Pride House LA LA and has appeared on countless short films. Chelsea, so excited to have you today.

[00:01:39] Kelsi Davies: Thank you so much for having me. I’m so excited to be here.

[00:01:44] Bob Wheeler: It’s exciting. And we’re going to talk about money, money, money, money, money. So is money something that you know now you’ve got success, you’ve got a presence.

Is money something that you have to worry about?

[00:01:57] Kelsi Davies: I feel like you always should worry about that. Just to make sure you’re not overspending and make sure that you are investing it very wisely when you are making money. But I struggled with money for a long time growing up my family, we didn’t have a lot it was just very like precious you just kinda have a different view on money and making it, I don’t know, even making money.

I still find myself by. Clothes from target. Like I try not to spend my money on things. I feel aren’t necessarily what I feel like I need. Yeah. So I definitely am so grateful to be financially stable where I am right now.

[00:02:41] Bob Wheeler: Now, do you ever catch yourself, like when you’re buying something then at target or when you’re just thinking about things and you’re like, oh my God, I’m on a budget.

I’ve got to stay really close to the vest. And then all of a sudden you go, oh, wait a minute. I’m actually in a pretty good place.

[00:02:56] Kelsi Davies: Yeah. Yeah. It’s like surprising, honest. That’s me, Mike. Wow. Actually, I’m fine. Like it’s a different mindset, honestly, and it’s very humbling being able to grow up because a lot of people grow up with money around them and stuff, and that’s totally fine, but a lot of people don’t, so it’s just a whole different way.

Even making friends, you just see their values, what they value as a person, what they value as in finances and stuff. And it’s so different. It’s just a different mindset.

[00:03:29] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. Where are your parents? Did they talk about money when you were a kid? Were their fears and anxiety? That they shared with you or that you picked up on what was that growing up without a lot of money?

[00:03:41] Kelsi Davies: I always had like my psychic gifts, so I always knew if something was going on. They wouldn’t argue in front of us. They wouldn’t ever make us worry about it, but we would, they would say things like, oh, we can’t afford that, but let’s try this one. This is the store brand, or I have coupons for this.

We would just make do, and we never would throw fits if we couldn’t get stuff. I think that they described it in a way for us not to worry, but to be aware, we can’t do some things that other people do. We can’t go places that other people go, but they definitely gave us everything they could growing up.

And I’m so grateful for that. But they would say. You could just feel it. They would going through their bills and the IRS and everything like that. And it would be stressful for them. So I just hope that I don’t get to that point and hope that they can remain financially stable because it does cause stress in your life.

Like it’s money, can’t buy happiness, but it definitely helps

[00:04:44] Bob Wheeler: it can help take the edge off. It helps take the edge off. Now did your family vacation? When

[00:04:51] Kelsi Davies: we could, we would go to Catalina island every year for a camping trip. That was like our big trip because it was pricey, but we never really got to go out of the country or anything like that.

So I think now I’m starting to travel and do stuff because we weren’t able to do that then. But I’m so excited just to see the world now.

[00:05:12] Bob Wheeler: Yeah, that’s awesome. So as a five-year-old, as a six year old wedded, Kelsi foresee her future to be right. You have this gift, but was there like I’m going to be a ballerina or was there some memory that you have of how life was going to turn out when you got older?

[00:05:32] Kelsi Davies: Yeah, I didn’t expect all this. I knew I would be somewhat in the public. I would always just know I wanted to entertain. I wanted to be out there. I wanted to put myself out there. I feel like I was very shy when I was little and very in my shell. I didn’t really get to be my authentic self. So now coming into this and being able to share who I am, my journey as an entrepreneur.

 Entertainer as a psychic medium it’s just so great to be able to like, share that with everyone. And I don’t know, I just feel like when I was younger, I knew I would be out there. I just knew that I would be an actress and stuff. I remember even saying I wanted to be a gymnastics coach when I was little, because I was in gymnastics and I ended up being one for a while and stuff.

And that wasn’t quite, I was like, this is great, but eh, I’d rather do something. Yeah. So I think my five-year-old self would be proud. Yeah.

[00:06:30] Bob Wheeler: Now you had a friend. If I remember a friend inspired you to do tick talk and all that kind of stuff. And. Are you still friends with that person? And are they still tick talking?

[00:06:41] Kelsi Davies: Yes. So his name is Omar. Gosh, TV on YouTube. And he would always be a mentor for you too. And I was a fan of him originally, so I was a big fan. I went to his fan meetup and stuff, and then we just started talking and I think he knew that I was. Wanting to do what I wanted to do, like with YouTube and everything.

I think that he saw my potential and a lot of people would look past that. And I’m so grateful that he did, because he would mentor me through YouTube, what to do. And then he would be like, Hey, you should start doing tick talks. Like people are really doing that, I think that you’d be great at it.

You dance, you do all this stuff, and I was like, okay, like I started just doing it here and there. And we went to spring hill, cemetery in Florida and they had a haunted doll. And I remember that. And I was like, I want like a haunted doll on it. When I was driving in the car, I was just like, thinking about it.

And I was like, I remember that doll he had, that was interesting. I was like, want one. So then I got Lola, my Honda doll and my Tik TOK just blew up after that. So I’m so grateful for everything and the community I’ve built and the business I’ve built, do you ever get scared of having a haunted doll?

[00:07:56] Bob Wheeler: Have you ever worried that Lola is gonna do something that’s like on the darker side? I know you play into the darker side, but do you ever wake up and going all right, Lola, what’s going

[00:08:05] Kelsi Davies: on? Hey. Yeah. So when I first got her, I was scared. I wasn’t sure. I wasn’t really tapped into my mediumship as much as I am now.

So I was just kinda what if this actually, isn’t a good spirit? You know what, if this is a bad spirit, what if I’m bringing something bad in I was pretty scared. Lola didn’t really like me at first either. She would knock things off shelves. She would move her doll. She would do things to like letting me know she was there and Here to stay.

She was like, respect me. So I started respecting her more and understanding that she was human. She was alive. She’s a spirit. And she deserves respect. She’s not just a ghost, a spooky ghost. She’s definitely has her human emotions still in everything. So we just started connecting. She helped me with my mediumship.

I don’t know. I see her now and I don’t get scared anymore. Like my boyfriend’s seen her too. And he didn’t believe in ghosts until he saw her standing in my room and he explained exactly what she looked like. And I was like, okay, you saw her. That’s interesting. So I think that we’ve both. Come to love Lola.

And I feel like a lot of people out there as well.

[00:09:26] Bob Wheeler: That’s so cool. And how does somebody that feels like they might have that connection to the spirit world? Hopefully watching your videos, listening to your podcast will help people to figure out how they can connect more, but there is a community out there.

How do people find. Yeah.

[00:09:43] Kelsi Davies: So there’s a lot of communities, but depends on the creator. And every community is different Eva, as like an entrepreneur building your community is very important. And you can tell a lot about the creator by the community that they’ve felt. There’s a lot of toxic communities out there that I’ve come across that have bullied me, have called me crazy, have just been really aggressive.

And then there’s other communities who are super open to it. And just here. Listen to people’s experiences and believe them, like it just have an open mind, so I don’t know. I just wanted to create this community online. Even my comments, my comment section is a community in my eyes. It’s just people interacting with each other people, sharing their experiences, people coming in, being paused.

And if someone comes in and starts bullying other people, I just block them. I’m like, you know what? I’m all for speech and whatnot. Having your own opinion. There’s a difference between being skeptical and being just closed off and being. So there’s a big difference there. Of course I allow skepticism.

 That’s a whole part of it. That’s a whole part of the journey is being skeptical of things and finding that proof and stuff. But there’s a difference, like if you just go out and want to spread negativity, it’s just not something that I’m here for. And not something that I want to read every day in my comments.

Just people being so nasty. Yeah,

[00:11:13] Bob Wheeler: absolutely. There’s enough going on in the world. Let’s try and find the positivity and connection for sure, please. So I’m curious if you have a haunted or spirited ghost doll. I would imagine you don’t really have to budget a whole lot of money for them, right? Like they don’t cost a lot.

They don’t add to your budget or do

[00:11:33] Kelsi Davies: they, it depends. Some people do collect on it items. So they definitely spend a good amount, their antiques, a lot of them. So of course, some of them will be more pricey. Lola was like, I think she was like $70. Her doll was, I don’t want to say Lola cause rude, but I think she was like $70 or something.

So they’re honestly not too expensive, but it’s a whole spirit with it. But the whole. Ballgame once you get that. So you gotta make sure you get like a nice friendly spirit, if you want that in your house.

[00:12:11] Bob Wheeler: Yeah, no, absolutely. So switching back to money for a second. Do you budget without Lola? Do you track stuff?

Are you clocking? Yeah, I spend a thousand dollars a month in food. Do you pay attention to that stuff most of the time or do you not really have to. I

[00:12:28] Kelsi Davies: always focus on it, no matter what. I remember running out of money and having none. And I remember being at a CVS, I ran out of money. I couldn’t get my face wash.

I had to give him like all these coins and it was like, I was holding up the line. It was really embarrassing. For me and I just didn’t ever want to get to that point again. So I definitely do budget my money. I have enough money for my rent. I put it to the side. I’m like, okay, I need this for rent.

I need this for taxes because they take a large portion of your taxes, which sucks. Yeah. I have never made this much money, so I am trying to. How much goes to taxes, how much goes to rent? How much goes to my publicist? How much goes to investments in my career? My equipment, my laptop, everything like that.

So I definitely do budget. And I definitely think that no matter how much money you’re making, you should always budget and be smart with it. And not just overspend because that’s when people lose it. Yeah. Valuable it is.

[00:13:31] Bob Wheeler: And do you try to make sure that you put aside 10% or 5% that pay yourself first or making sure that it’s put away so that you live on the other 90%?

[00:13:42] Kelsi Davies: Yeah. Yeah. In my mind it’ll be deposited. And then in my mind I’m like, okay, it says this much, but actually it’s this much. I can’t look at it and be like, oh, I have this much. I spend no, like I budget it. I make sure I want to travel. I want to do things to, I want to go places. So I set aside, like I put it in categories in my head.

All I calculate it on my calculator. Okay. If this much, like I can spend this much, but I need to save this much. So it’s definitely no matter how much money you’re making, I guess a good way is to put it in categories.

[00:14:19] Bob Wheeler: Absolutely. I think that’s great. They have the envelope system and all kinds of different ways to keep it in categories.

Now, when you started making more money, was the foundation of starting to save and do these things from stuff you learned as a kid, or did you seek out advice and people helped you and said, Hey, maybe do this. Or was it again something that you just felt intuitively, this is the direction I need to go.

[00:14:44] Kelsi Davies: A lot of intuitive and just seeing my parents and hearing their advice.

And my mom would always tell me, she always calls me about taxes and stuff, because she’s had struggles with the IRS and has struggles with the house mortgage and all that stuff. So it was just a lot of stress that she had that she’s I don’t want you to go through this too. So she’ll definitely guide me and help me with things like that as well, and make sure I’m budgeting.

Make sure I’m smart with my money. She doesn’t want me to ever get into a pickle. So she’s definitely been a big help. I’ve also had some like accountants and tax advisors, just like telling me different things, what to do with, if I need an S-corp, if I need a different way of tackling. I don’t know all the technical terms.

Like I always get confused when they’re talking to me, but I’ve definitely had guidance in that way. So I recommend talking to an expert who’s good at accounting and stuff like that. Cause I’m not good with numbers. So that’s great. You spear by cell

[00:15:48] Bob Wheeler: phone. That’s great. And do you remember any phrases that your mom or dad ever said when you were a kid, like money doesn’t grow on trees or were there any little mantras that you got to be reminded of as a kid?

[00:16:00] Kelsi Davies: Yeah, basically money doesn’t grow on trees, just stuff like that. It was more experience for me and just being very observant of what was going on in the house and all of that. So I think they taught just by their experiences basically.

[00:16:18] Bob Wheeler: Do you think that having the gift, the psychic gift, that, that gives you more confidence in things, whereas somebody else might be like, oh, I’m really worried about that.

That might be somewhere that you’re just a lot more trusting or trusting yourself.

[00:16:32] Kelsi Davies: Yes. I definitely feel. I know, I don’t know. Sometimes I don’t know everything like that would be crazy if I knew a freak it, everything, but I definitely have an idea of where my life will be and what’s going to come about, I do have a confidence because of it, for sure.

And I feel like even my friends asking, like it gives them a sense of relief, just knowing. Cause I’ve been very accurate with all my. Just when they’re struggling and stuff I always see the lighter side of it and I’m like, why can’t you see this? It gets frustrating because I see it. But they don’t.

So it’s very relieving to see me older and stuff. If I’m having anxiety, if I’m like, am I going to die today? But then I see myself older with kids and stuff. I’m like, okay, I’m okay today. I’m going to be good. I can travel. I can do my stuff. Like it does definitely. It’s a weird thing, but it helps.

[00:17:30] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. No, I imagine. It makes me think I saw in, I’m going to just make sure I read it right. But I saw in an article or an interview, you did they named that you wanted people to embrace their sexuality and be their unapologetic. Yeah, and that takes a bit of confidence and that’s a scary thing for a lot of people to embrace yourself, unapologetically, including sexuality.

And again, I’m curious where that foundation of confidence and that desire to push that out in the.

[00:17:59] Kelsi Davies: Yeah. I feel like there’s so much hate in the world. And with the LGBTQ plus community, there is a lot of pay and there’s a lot of judgment and there’s a lot of different beliefs. You’re going to hell for this and this.

And it’s just that’s not how it works. Like in my mind, I’m just like, I don’t understand why God or whoever would create us to be like, even in animals, like a lot of animals, there’s homosexuality. It’s crazy. Like it’s in nature, so it’s just it’s just part of it. It’s part of being human.

Like it’s just, I don’t know if they have the same sex. I don’t get why it’s such a big deal to other people. So I think it’s always good to embrace yourself and who you are truly deep down. I came out as pansexual because I don’t know with my psychic stuff. See the good in everyone. And I see so much deeper than the surface and I see their soul basically.

Like I just feel it, I feel their soul in their pie really connect with someone in their soul and they happen to be in a female body. That’s just like me. I’m like, I don’t think that’s wrong. It’s just I don’t really see like a gender with that. It’s more of who they are on the inside.

And I just feel I dunno, I think the world just needs to chill, take a chill pill because why would being gay? Affect your, I don’t know, I don’t want to go into religion, but why would it affect you going to heaven and stuff? If you’re a good person, if you spread positivity into this world. So I just, I always believe just be your authentic self.

Be positive. We’re all on this earth together. We’re all going through it, but it takes two seconds to say have a good day. Like it just takes a second just to add some positivity.

[00:19:47] Bob Wheeler: Yeah, absolutely. And I’m wondering for you personally, if you could share maybe a struggle or two that you had because people out there listening.

Wow, Kelsi’s got it all together. She almost knows everything. She’s pretty amazing. And everybody has their struggles.

[00:20:03] Kelsi Davies: Yes, everyone has their struggles. I’ve definitely struggled. Mental health struggles a lot. I was very depressed back in the day. I had very suicidal tendencies. I didn’t want to be here.

I just didn’t understand myself. I didn’t feel like I could be myself. I didn’t feel like people accepted me. If I was myself. With the psychic stuff with the being pansexual with all that I just felt like I wasn’t accepted. And I was always very quiet growing up. I was at total introvert, like at schools, anyone, she was the girl that sat in the hallway by herself.

Like she was weird. She was in advanced drama and art and all this stuff. I was just different, but I don’t know. Wanted to come online and share all that with people because I’m very open about it. Like I just want to share my struggles and my journey with others to maybe help them, help guide them in some way.

And so they know that you’re not alone. You can get past it, you can move forward, you can do whatever you set your mind to. You can manifest your abundance, your success. You can create your own reality of it’s just a different mindset. And I just hope that I can help others in some way.

[00:21:18] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. I was going to say, what is your legacy or the impact that you want to have?

I think that’s what you’re speaking to is it’s not that you’re giving permission, but letting people know. Do what you need to do, and maybe that’s giving permission, but I think there’s a lot of people out there that don’t give themselves permission to actually be their unapologetic selves.

[00:21:37] Kelsi Davies: And it’s like the family you grow up in, like they have a big impact on you.

So if you have kids and stuff, just be accepting of who they are, don’t force them to be a certain way. I feel like society is just like forcing people to do different things. You have to be this way. You have to be this weight. You have to look this certain like it’s just really sad that society has changed so much to the point where it’s just oh, if you’re not rich, if you don’t have money, like you’re not going to get anything.

It’s just like a weird standard that they put. And I’m like, Created, like we’re not stuck there. We are worthy. I think that’s something I had to convince myself for a long time is that I am worthy of success. I am worthy of making money. Like I didn’t feel like I was worthy of it. And how

[00:22:25] Bob Wheeler: do you

[00:22:25] Kelsi Davies: feel.

I definitely felt I’ve worked so, so hard for this and I’ve been positive every step of the way. I haven’t burned any bridges. And I just feel like I definitely do deserve it and I am worthy in I just feel like I’m always grateful and so humbled by it. And I don’t know, just having people who support me so much, it’s just heartwarming to me, but it’s just I found that confidence finally in myself and that acceptance part where I’m like, okay, I earned this. Like I do deserve this, absolutely. I love that you speak to that piece about finding the confidence. I think for a lot of people, they will wonder, am I ever going to get there?

[00:23:10] Bob Wheeler: Am I ever going to get there? Do I get to, and it’s not that we ever arrive. But hopefully at some point there can be a calmness or a grounding of it’s going to be okay. I got this.

[00:23:23] Kelsi Davies: Yeah. I got this. Basically, if you just look at it, like there’s affirmations, you can say, I don’t know who is in the affirmations, but it’s just a good thing to put into the universe to say every day to yourself or to other people it’s just I am worthy of.

I am successful. I am abundant. I am happy. You can just say things to yourself every day, just to motivate yourself. Like I am going to get this job today. Like you just have to live in it, but it’s a great way to manifest. I definitely believe in manifesting your goals. I think. Energy so powerful.

And if you put that energy in and that hard work, you will get in a positive way, you will get what you need. If you go at it at a different perspective.

[00:24:09] Bob Wheeler: Absolutely. I think affirmations are great. I think we can choose happiness. I think we can choose to have a positive life. It takes a little effort sometimes.

Yes. And certainly we can change that mindset

[00:24:22] Kelsi Davies: doesn’t happen overnight. That’s for sure does not

[00:24:25] Bob Wheeler: happen overnight. Kelsi, we are at the fast five and the fast five are sponsored by April. Where you can invest spare change bank, smarter, safer retirement, and more for more information, check out the show notes.

All right, Kelsi, here we go. We’re just gonna down and dirty. We’re gonna have some fun. I’m ready. You’re ready. All right. What was the last purchase you returned to a store? Like you bought a shirt or you bought a, I

[00:24:52] Kelsi Davies: think it was pants. From urban Outfitters.

[00:24:57] Bob Wheeler: You just didn’t like them or they were too

[00:25:00] Kelsi Davies: big.

Oh yeah. Yeah. I lost weight. So they, I got the wrong size.

[00:25:07] Bob Wheeler: That’s a good thing or a bad thing. It doesn’t right. It’s all good. It’s all good. Is there any one thing about money and finances that gives you anxiety?

[00:25:20] Kelsi Davies: Every day, every day.

[00:25:23] Bob Wheeler: All right. What would you spend money on without needing any justification

[00:25:28] Kelsi Davies: food?

[00:25:32] Bob Wheeler: How would you describe your relationship with money?

[00:25:36] Kelsi Davies: Good and bad. It’s the love and hate relationship. It’s still a little

[00:25:43] Bob Wheeler: bit of a rollercoaster, a little up and down for sure. Alright. What’s the most annoying question you get as a psychic.

[00:25:52] Kelsi Davies: Who’s around me, who’s dead around me. I was just weird.

I get it. But I’m like, there’s not just you know what I mean? It’s just weird to ask that

[00:26:06] Bob Wheeler: I would feel weird asking that I’ll answer,

[00:26:08] Kelsi Davies: but I’m just like, oh, I have to talk to a dead person right now.

[00:26:15] Bob Wheeler: Wow. Let’s stay in the presence. That’s too funny. Ah, so we are at our M and M moment, our sweet spot, our money and motivation.

Is there a practical tip or a piece of wealth wisdom that you use in your personal.

[00:26:30] Kelsi Davies: I guess just go into it with a positive mindset, always with money doesn’t equal power. And I hope that people don’t think that because I feel like once some people get into a lot of money, they find that, or they think that they have this power over other people, but money doesn’t allow that superiority.

We’re all human, we’re all equal. And I think that money it’s an object. It is a way of life. We do need it, of course, but I don’t think it should ever allow yourself to get cocky about it for lack of better term. I dunno. I’ve just seen a lot of people turn into a-holes with a lot of money, you know what I mean?

And it sucks. I’m like, that’s not how it works. I feel like there’s a lot of different ways to make money and without stealing, without theft, without being a scammer, you know, there’s a lot of different ways. And I feel like you just need to have that positive way. It’ll make you happier too. And it’ll make you know that I earned this.

I deserve this. It’s just a better way of thinking about.

[00:27:36] Bob Wheeler: Absolutely. I think money or lack of money, just amplifies who you are in the present, right? Doesn’t mean you can’t do work and change, but if you’re not such a nice person without money, you’re probably not going to be such a nice person with money but who knows what Kelsi, I love having this conversation.

My takeaway. Is that what I didn’t hear when you talked about growing up without a lot of money? I didn’t hear a lot of blame. I didn’t hear about woe is me. I didn’t hear a lot about being a victim. I did hear a lot about gratitude. I heard a lot about being appreciative and humble. And I appreciate this place where you’re about bringing in positivity and making space a wider welcome for people to let’s all thrive and not at the expense of other people.

And I think we need a lot more of that right now, because there is a lot of hate out

[00:28:30] Kelsi Davies: There’s room for everyone. There’s room for everyone to grow. It’s not like you need to climb over other people to get to the top there’s room for everyone. So I hope that people know that you can rise together.

You don’t need to push people down or take their spot or just be malicious about.

[00:28:50] Bob Wheeler: Yeah, there’s a saying somewhere it’s not pie. There’s plenty. Yeah. There’s

[00:28:56] Kelsi Davies: so much there’s enough for everyone. Like we got this, we

[00:29:01] Bob Wheeler: got it. We got it. Kelsi, where can people find you online and social media?

They can learn about psychic and your videos and your singles and all that good stuff. And your pod.

[00:29:12] Kelsi Davies: Yeah. So I have my Tik TOK, Instagram and Twitter is all Kelsi Davies with two eyes and two S’s. So it’s K E L S I D a V I E S S. And then my YouTube is just my name, Kelsi Davies. And I have my intoxicated podcast.

It’s I N T a L K. X I C a T E D and talks the CADed. I came up with it when I was intoxicated.

[00:29:42] Bob Wheeler: We’ll put all that in there. We will make sure that people come and find you and share the love. And I so appreciate having you on today. It was just such a

[00:29:49] Kelsi Davies: pleasant so much. It was so nice meeting you. Oh my gosh.

I had so much fun.

[00:29:55] Bob Wheeler: Absolutely. You have a great weekend and we’ll stay in touch.

[00:29:59] Kelsi Davies: Thank you so much.

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