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Episode 193

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Have you ever felt the weight of your day-to-day life? The stress from work, family issues at home, or financial worries can feel like they’re going to take over. There is an easy way for us all to declutter our thoughts, find a sense of inner peace, and manage the stress in our lives.

Our next guest, Roberta Hughes, is the Founder and lead instructor at PeaceFull Living. This boutique hybrid studio conveys a delicate and personalized Peaceful Living instruction for body and mind through customized Pilates, Meditation, and Yoga practices. 

Roberta’s philosophy is that with the proper training and body awareness, everybody can achieve their health and wellness goals, live without pain, reduce the impact of stress, and obtain the highest quality of life.

Roberta and Bob unpack the benefits of mindful practices, zen moments, and why we need to be more radical with our self-care.

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From the comfort of your home, you can embark on a Peaceful, Purposeful, and Personal approach to having Pilates, Yoga and Meditation transform your life. Roberta is graciously offering 30% discount on any of the services at peacefullliving.com by using promo code MONEY30 at checkout. Become a member or sign up for a customized plan with guidance and mentorship directly with Roberta and begin your PeaceFull Living journey today. 

 

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[00:00:00] Bob Wheeler: Welcome to another episode of money you should ask where everyone has something they can teach you. I’m your host, Bob Wheeler. In this episode, we are going to explore why we do what we do when it comes to money as a CPA for the past 30 years. Wait, let me say 25, because that makes me sound younger. I have seen it all when it comes to money and emotions.

[00:00:21] And if you think I’m talking about my clients, I’m not, I’m talking about myself. My relationship with money has been, and sometimes still is an emotional roller coaster. Maybe that’s something you’re also familiar with. Good news. You and I are not the only ones. Our next guest is going to share their money, beliefs, money blocks, and life challenges as well.

[00:00:43] Buckle your seatbelt and enjoy the ride.[00:01:00]

[00:01:06] Our next guest is Roberta Hughes. She is the founder and lead instructor of peaceful living, a boutique hybrid studio where one can achieve a healthy body in mind, feel heard and nurtured and have a positive relationship with stress through customized practices and Pilates, meditation, and yoga.

[00:01:24] Roberta’s philosophy is that with the proper training and body awareness, all people can achieve their health and wellness goals live without pain. Reduce the impact of stress and obtain the highest quality of life. It is her belief that a combination of Pilates, yoga and meditation are the pillars to that solution.

[00:01:43] Roberta, welcome to the show.

[00:01:45] Roberta Hughes: Thank you so much, Bob, I’m excited to be here.

[00:01:48] Bob Wheeler: Well, I didn’t know if you would be in a yoga pose or like a Pilates machine. Like it’s, it’s a big part of your

[00:01:54] Roberta Hughes: life. Both of those are, but it’s a little difficult to conduct an interview. If I’m trying to [00:02:00] practice yoga and Pilates and be connected to you at the same time.

[00:02:04] So part of peaceful living is being mindful and attentive for what’s in front of you. And this is what I’m here for this interview with you. And this time with you.

[00:02:14] Bob Wheeler: Awesome. Well, I love that you’re out there in a way, changing the world, right? One deep breath at a time through helping people to become more aware.

[00:02:25] You encourage people to check ins throughout the day. And to really just in a way, these practices help us to be more mindful.

[00:02:33] Roberta Hughes: Mindfulness. Yes. Bringing mindfulness to all of the pieces of your day, not just taking yourself out of your day to become mindful, but bringing that into everything that you do from the time that you get up till the time you go to bed.

[00:02:48] Bob Wheeler: And did you always wanna do this? You have a degree in journalism. And so how do you get from journalism to yoga and mindfulness?

[00:02:58] Roberta Hughes: Yes. I took my [00:03:00] first yoga class in college and loved how I felt after the class. I changed my major three times from business to English literature. Then finally to journalism.

[00:03:12] That’s where I found my strength and the excitement I had actually always wanted to be a weather girl. I know they don’t call them that anymore. They’re meteorologists , but that was my inspiration. And then I married someone who was an officer in the air force and we started moving around. So journalism wasn’t something available for someone that was moving every three years.

[00:03:35] And I had become a mom. Right after I graduated college, I worked for a year and became a mom at that time. So life just kind of took me on this journey. And yoga was the one thing that I could always do no matter where we lived, I could even just teach one hour a week. There was nothing that I had to commit to.

[00:03:54] I could just do it when I wanted and when it fit into my life.

[00:03:59] Bob Wheeler: That’s awesome. [00:04:00] That just sort of organically just turned into something more. Yes. And it was something that you’d love doing.

[00:04:06] Roberta Hughes: Yes. I continued to study it. And then I went through training and then I started to teach really as an outlet of something to do as a part-time job, being a mom of someone that was in the military and gone a lot, I needed something that was flexible and that fit the bill.

[00:04:23] And it fulfilled me when I taught, even though I was giving to other people, I would feel better and more grounded when I returned.

[00:04:31] Bob Wheeler: that’s awesome. Now I’m thinking finances and I know a lot of yoga and Pilates people and some are my clients. Yes. There’s a lot of expensive equipment in Pilates. Mm-hmm yoga.

[00:04:43] Doesn’t always pay a great deal. So it can be a struggle financially, at least what I’ve seen. If you’re just doing it for the.

[00:04:52] Roberta Hughes: Yes, doing it for the money is probably not the reason to choose this industry. This industry, I think for [00:05:00] me, started off as a great support or supplemental income. It was really my hobby money.

[00:05:05] I definitely invested more than I got in return at some points. I got very lucky in my plotty training because I was working for a big fitness center and. I had only had yoga instruction in my wheelhouse and they needed me to also have the Pilates. So they put me through my level one training, ah, which then it didn’t cost as much as it does now.

[00:05:29] So then I was able to add in each year till I got my comprehensive certification, a standard Pilates reformer is baseline $5,000. Right now you can’t even get one. It takes about six months to get one. Wow. So it’s an expensive industry, but it also, what I like to point out to instructors and fitness people like myself is making sure that as you create your business, that you are investing in the value of what you [00:06:00] bring to the table and investing in the value of what you can bring to others.

[00:06:05] When we go to a chiropractor, we don’t blink an eye about paying $50 for 15 minutes. With that chiropractor. If you’re a Pilates or yoga instructor spending 55 minutes in front of a person, you should have the value of your time and your training and your expertise. That’s not to say you could go out, get a weekend training and charge a lot of money, but if you’ve invested your time in your education, the value of that is important to advocate for.

[00:06:34] Yeah.

[00:06:35] Bob Wheeler: And do you find that a lot of yoga people, instructors, facilitators, all that do gravitate towards, well, let me undercharge, or maybe there’s not enough value or as somebody from the outside might say, well, you know, you’re just stretching, right? What are the mindsets that you see coming in? And I love that you’re trying to cultivate that with people to know your value.

[00:06:57] Yeah. And know the value of what you

[00:06:59] Roberta Hughes: bring. [00:07:00] It took me a long time to get there probably for the first 10 years as an instructor, because it was a hobby because I was a mom. I just felt like I don’t really need to earn a lot doing this. So I just showed up to teach whatever the studio would pay me was great.

[00:07:15] Thank you so much, you know? Now that I’m doing this professionally to build a business for myself, my mindset has shifted. And one person said to me, early on money is an exchange of energy. And that really helped me flip my focus because prior to that, I felt like I am just a teacher. I am just showing up to do this one thing, and that doesn’t give me very much power or value.

[00:07:42] I’ve invested a lot in educating myself. The benefit of paying good money for instruction is how well a person might know your body and know your needs. If you go to a group fitness class where an instructor is maybe beginning their career and they’re getting paid [00:08:00] $30 to teach 30 people, their knowledge base is good enough for that setting.

[00:08:05] To really work with a person who is preparing for knee surgery or who has had a back injury, or who has experienced trauma in their life. These specialized areas come with experience. It comes with learning and you should have the value of your time equal to the value of the investment the person is making in you.

[00:08:27] Yeah,

[00:08:28] Bob Wheeler: absolutely. And what about though? So now I’m the person I’m so stressed out. Everybody’s told me to do yoga and Pilates, and I come to you and I say, well, if I have to pay money for yoga and Pilates, I’m really gonna stress out cuz it’s gonna cost me a lot of money and I gotta go get a mat and I gotta get some yoga clothes and I gotta invest some time.

[00:08:50] It’s a lot of time of sitting and being quiet. Like that’s crazy.

[00:08:55] Roberta Hughes: That sounds like a big, no, like , who’s gonna say yes to that, right? [00:09:00] so let’s kinda unpack this. Mm-hmm the first thing yoga classes are available for all different prices. In fact, the business that I have today really turned into what it is now during COVID and I showed.

[00:09:14] Three times a week as a volunteer and taught yoga classes in that platform. Most of my audience was in their sixties seven days and had never done yoga before. Wow. And I think because they were in the comfort of their own home, they were on the floor with their dogs. Nobody was looking at them. They didn’t have to go anywhere.

[00:09:34] They showed up and they started doing it. And from there, then the value started to show up, my knees don’t hurt anymore. And once you have that value, once you have that experience, you’re able to invest more and everything in life is an investment of time and money. Those are our two most precious resources, right.

[00:09:54] Mm-hmm time and money. Yeah. And we have to choose how we invest in those. [00:10:00] What we wanna pay for, if you want to feel better in your body and you want a more specialized approach, you need to invest the time and the money and the discipline to make that happen. It’s

[00:10:12] Bob Wheeler: so hard. Maybe it’s just LA everybody’s so busy and you know, okay, great.

[00:10:18] I do yoga, but now I have to do Shavasana. Right. And then that’s another 15 minutes of, of resting when I’ve already been quiet and like that’s another 15 minutes to my hour. Mm-hmm . Now I will say that I read that Gandhi would say that he would meditate and take two hours when he had busy meetings instead of an hour.

[00:10:40] Like the more. Intensive meeting was the longer he took to prepare for. And people are like, what are you doing? And, but he was saying like, no, I need to really be centered and grounded and connected. I’m paraphrasing. He didn’t talk to me specifically, but you know, what do you say to that? Because I know there’s so many people are like, it’s so busy and [00:11:00] it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[00:11:01] I think that we just keep creating chaos and stress. It

[00:11:05] Roberta Hughes: is, and we have to interrupt it on purpose. And that’s why I created my platform in the manner that it is. I have Zen breaks that are anywhere from two minutes to five minutes long. Most of my yoga classes are about 30 minutes long. Um, You can do them from the comfort of your home, the meditations you can put on to your laptop at your work setting, or if you’re in LA, maybe it’s between shoots or something, that you’re popping into your cell phone and getting a little bit of nourishment.

[00:11:37] That way. I created this philosophy haphazardly throughout my life as a mom. If you’re a parent of young children, that is the epitome of a busy life. You are on the go all of the time. So LA kind of operates like a busy parent, right? Yeah. All of the time you don’t get to sleep. And I just started popping these little.[00:12:00]

[00:12:00] Time slots, five minutes here. 10 minutes there. If I got 20 minutes, I was so excited. to do a little bit of movement, a little bit of breathing things to reset my focus and nourish my energy because you need that energy to keep going.

[00:12:15] Bob Wheeler: How do you tell someone or how do you help someone to just start.

[00:12:19] Today, I’m gonna take three breaks or today I’m just gonna check in before lunch. How do we shift that mindset? Right? Cause there does have to be a hiccup, an interruption to change the pattern. Even if we want it, we still have to get out of the unconscious. Rotation that keeps just going through our

[00:12:37] Roberta Hughes: head.

[00:12:37] Yeah. We get in a routine and it’s like, we’re on the hamster wheel. Yeah. How do we disrupt that pattern? Yeah. And what I say to people, take a look at your calendar. Hopefully most people are using one in some way. Where can you plug in five minute pieces at least three times this week? If it’s at the same time, every day.

[00:12:57] Great. But like me many people don’t [00:13:00] have a regular nine to five schedule anymore. Right. My Monday and my Wednesday and my Friday all look different. So it’s not like every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, this time I’m doing this, but I look at the whole week on a Sunday and I call it keeping white space in my calendar.

[00:13:16] So if you don’t have any white space in your calendar, that’s the place to begin. Where can you create some five minute pockets of white space in your calendar? And then over time, could you stretch that to 20 minutes or 30 minutes? And it’s not only gonna be for mindfulness practices. You’re not just gonna be doing yoga Pate’s meditation, but maybe you’re gonna go outside to eat your lunch.

[00:13:38] Maybe you’re going to go and make a cup of tea. Maybe you’re going to sit outside and drink a glass of water. These are little things. Also help. You don’t have to say, okay, I’m gonna stop work and go to my yoga time. Or because that too is really regimented. Yeah. I like to create flow in a person’s life and figure out [00:14:00] how this is going to fit their lifestyle.

[00:14:02] Bob Wheeler: Yeah, absolutely. And so that intention to do it is probably the first start. That first step is I’m gonna do it. I’m gonna block the time. Maybe I miss a couple, but at least now I’ve calendared it and it’s it’s gonna happen. Yes.

[00:14:19] Roberta Hughes: And you’re probably gonna fail. And when you fail, just know, okay. This week, I got it in once.

[00:14:25] Great. Let’s try again next week. I’m at least gonna get it in once. Like, I don’t wanna take it out completely, but maybe I was too ambitious in saying three times. Maybe it’s two times that I’m striving for now and just like investing. Right. If you try to start off investing a hundred dollars a day, it’s not gonna happen.

[00:14:46] Who has that money, right? Not many people do who has 60 minutes a day to invest in self care. Everyone would probably say I’m too busy. I don’t have that time, but everyone has five minutes. Yeah. [00:15:00]

[00:15:00] Bob Wheeler: Absolutely. Absolutely. Again, it’s changing that mindset. The awareness is that first step I’m intending to do it different.

[00:15:08] I’m aware that I’m haven’t been doing it. I’m gonna start to create these pockets, these hiccups, and, uh, do something different.

[00:15:16] Roberta Hughes: Yeah. And then from awareness, your purpose, like, why am I choosing this for me right now, knowing that purpose really helps.

[00:15:24] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. When you look back, you were gonna potentially do journalism.

[00:15:30] You moved into the yoga, the Pilates, that all sort of organically happened. When you look back, when do you think you first had awareness about it? Like you were doing the yoga just cuz it felt good, right? Mm-hmm was that pretty early on that you said, you know what? This, I see the purpose of this. Yeah.

[00:15:48] Roberta Hughes: Immediate. It was one credit course in my. Scope of business classes my freshman year. And I realized that business in high school and business and [00:16:00] college were very different. yeah. And I did not have the stamina and the brain capacity to be in all of these business courses all at the same time. So I would go into my one little yoga class and it was just like, oh, thank goodness.

[00:16:15] Like I can be me. right. Safe space. Yeah. Yeah. So it was.

[00:16:21] Bob Wheeler: That’s awesome. So I’m gonna jump back a little bit as a kid growing up. What kind of support did you have from your parents? What did they teach you around money? What was your environment like? So

[00:16:34] Roberta Hughes: growing up, my father was in the army. He’s a 30 year army veteran and my mother is an immigrant from Serbia.

[00:16:42] So. Both of them. My dad’s African American born and raised in Kentucky came from very small means my mother as. Came from very small means. So they definitely taught me a work ethic that you get a job, you [00:17:00] work, you earn your money. And they never really talked about money, but I knew that we always had everything that we needed.

[00:17:06] And sometimes the things that we wanted, my dad did a lot of garage sale shopping. I remember going to swap meets with him to sell things. And I don’t know if that was out of need or out of just being smart with how he. Chose to buy things, but for birthdays back to school and Christmas, that was when we got clothing and all of, kind of the things that we wanted, where the exciting things would come in.

[00:17:34] And then my mom really taught me the value of taking care of the things that we had. So everything that I had, even now, as an adult, people will say, your clothes looks brand new, even though, you know, you’ve had them for three years, four years, some of my athletic wear I’ve had for 10 years. Because I learned how to take care of the things that I have.

[00:17:54] Bob Wheeler: We could all learn from that or at least I could, well, let me ask you this, your dad’s [00:18:00] military. I know from a prior conversation that you were supposed to be Robert? Yes. . How did, if you’re aware of how did gender play a role in what you were taught around money or what you were taught in general mindset?

[00:18:16] If any, it may not have played a role, but for a lot of people and you have two boys, do you teach them or talk to them differently? Then you might have if you had had

[00:18:26] Roberta Hughes: girls. So the one thing my dad instilled in my sister and I was, we can do anything we wanted to do. We just had to figure out how it was never really a money conversation.

[00:18:38] Mm-hmm but I saw my dad role modeling that. In addition to being in the service, he always had a hobby. He built his own golf clubs and sold those. And then he started building computers and he was this entrepreneur at heart and always doing these little things that fed his creativity and maybe brought in some money.

[00:18:58] But I think he would reinvest that [00:19:00] money in his hobby. Rather than having it drain the family bank account. My mother worked in service jobs. Her very first job was at Dunkin donuts. And I remember I was in third grade and they sat us down at the dinner table because she had been a stayat home mom up until that point.

[00:19:17] And they let us know your mom’s gonna start working. And so you’re gonna be on your own for this much time before school. And. When you get home from school, she’s gonna be there. Um, she woke up every morning to iron her uniforms in my dad’s uniform. So for me, it was more a conversation of humanity taking care of yourself, showing up with pride in your work mm-hmm regardless of what that work was.

[00:19:43] So I grew up with an appreciation for. All jobs are important. Anything a human being can do as work is important. So I see value in all of the jobs out there. And I never look at the CEO of a company [00:20:00] differently than I would look at someone that’s greeting me when I walk in through the door.

[00:20:04] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. I love that I’m taking away so much as I’m seeing your mom getting up and ironing.

[00:20:10] The focus and the dedication and the commitment is sort of what comes to mind of doing that with kids and all that goes on and yeah. Having that focus.

[00:20:22] Roberta Hughes: Yeah. And so when we go back to your question about gender, I never felt like I was treated. As a gender, you would probably back then say, my dad treated us more like boys than girls , you know, we had to get up and pull weeds.

[00:20:36] We had to rake rocks. We built brick walls with my dad. We went out and chopped firewood with him because he liked to get the Mesquite firewood for his grilling. Yeah. I hated like I would’ve preferred to have been more . More gender appreciated. when I was growing up I would’ve liked some more princess moments if you will.

[00:20:59] but , [00:21:00] I value that now because I’m privileged enough to be able to pay people, to do the things that I don’t like to do, but if I need to do them and am in a place in my life where I can’t afford to pay someone to do them, I have the skills, I have the ability, and I know the value of that work.

[00:21:18] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. As an adult, do you find that you still have any money mindset, challenges that come up?

[00:21:27] You said you’ve started to really appreciate and value what you bring. Is there anything still that you come across and go, ah, there’s that again, that you’re still working through.

[00:21:40] Roberta Hughes: It’s exactly that piece. Am I worth the value of what I’m asking? That’s the first question. Now I know the answer to that is yes, but now am I confident enough to ask for that value?

[00:21:53] And that’s a current practice for me right now. Another thing that I used to believe that I [00:22:00] don’t believe anymore is that you do have to work for somebody else to earn good money. And even sometimes now as an entrepreneur on the days when it’s not going well, the bank, account’s not rising at the rate that I would like, I should just fold my cards and go to work for somebody else and get a paycheck.

[00:22:18] So I still balance back and forth between those. Like, it would be so easy to just get a job. yeah.

[00:22:23] Bob Wheeler: And what’s the story about why it’s gonna be easier working for somebody

[00:22:29] Roberta Hughes: else? Maybe because that’s what was role modeled. You know, my dad being in the military and then he worked civil service. He showed up, he did his job, he got his paycheck and we were taken care of same with my mom.

[00:22:42] Her paycheck mostly supported the extra things my sister and I wanted to do. And now though she continued that work ethic and started to save. Her relationship with money. She talks a lot more about now than I’m an adult than when I was younger and she [00:23:00] too was learning. So she always says, I wish I had learned all of this sooner, so I could have taught you guys, but we learn when we’re ready.

[00:23:07] And I feel like I’m at the perfect time to be learning what I’m learning now.

[00:23:12] Bob Wheeler: Well, it’s so interesting that you say that I’m thinking about my parents and. My dad worked for somebody else. He didn’t make a lot of money. There were five kids. And after putting in years and years and years, this company had a habit of a year before you hit full retirement to get all the benefits they would fire you.

[00:23:33] Mm-hmm and. I just remember thinking I don’t wanna be beholden to anybody else ever. And even though I wanted to get the training and work in accounting firms, when I actually interviewed with my first CPA firm, they said, we have a feeling that you’re not gonna be very much a rule follower. We have a feeling, you might create some problems.

[00:23:55] We really like you, but we think you might be a troublemaker. And I was like, I’m probably gonna be a [00:24:00] troublemaker. And they were like, we really just need people to comply. And I’m. I’m probably not gonna do that. and so I think in my mind, I always knew that I probably wasn’t gonna be an ideal employee

[00:24:13] Roberta Hughes: so you weren’t gonna be the nine to five show up, do your job, say thank you and go home.

[00:24:18] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. Not not gonna happen. And I think for me, just that. Working for myself always meant that there was the possibility that I could make more, even when it wasn’t true. I thought, but one day.

[00:24:29] Roberta Hughes: Yeah. Yeah, because the company has it all together and as long as you show up and fulfill the need, you get your paycheck.

[00:24:37] Yeah. Yeah. But then that kind of sounds a little. Uninviting I don’t know. Yeah. Well,

[00:24:43] Bob Wheeler: you know, I guess it really depends on where you work some places. Yes. It’s a very warm, welcoming. Anything you have to bring to the table is welcome and other places are please just keep looking at the paperwork or the computer, and we don’t really want your opinion.

[00:24:56] Roberta Hughes: Well, and through the work that I’m doing, the more conversations I’m having. [00:25:00] I am actually going to start doing more with leadership development and leadership training. Mm-hmm because leaders really do have a desire to bring more empathy to their companies, to bring more community, to let people feel seen and heard and not to just show up and follow the roles.

[00:25:17] So. If you were to go to a company now, hopefully that conversation would be different. And I think younger people coming into corporations are requiring us to have different conversations about what it means to show up for work and to be productive and to participate in that corporate setting. So I anticipate, we’ll see some exciting changes in companies in the future, pretty in the near future.

[00:25:43] Bob Wheeler: I hope so I actually think it’s changing. And I like that you talk about authentic leadership on your website and stuff, because we do need more of that. We don’t need leaders that never make mistakes or pretend that they never make mistakes that can’t take in feedback [00:26:00] that do it my way or the highway kind of thing.

[00:26:02] And I know that that at least for people that were taught that that’s leadership. That can be a scary thing to shift to something different where it’s unknown and where we are welcoming. What we don’t know is out there. I was in a program called radical liveness based at a core energetics, and a lot of the teachers came from an expertise place.

[00:26:23] And so when we were encouraged to challenge the teachers and say, wait a minute, It was very triggering, I think for a lot of them to have students, like, who are you? You’re the student. Right. and I have questions. So I love that you’re going in that direction. And I do hope to see more of that because even though it can be scary, it’s much more energizing when you’re engaged in a two-way relationship, even when

[00:26:46] Roberta Hughes: it’s work.

[00:26:46] Absolutely. Everyone has a voice that needs to be heard.

[00:26:50] Bob Wheeler: Yeah. What is your purpose in doing all this? Bringing it out here, stepping into leadership and saying. This is a tool. What [00:27:00] is

[00:27:00] Roberta Hughes: your purpose? My purpose is just helping people find that place within themselves, where they’re at peace. And when you find and can tap into that, it manifests in all of the things that you’re doing in life.

[00:27:13] It will change your relationship to money. It will change your relationship to stress. It will change your relationships within your home. If we can have more of that happening. And then people showing up to do the work that they were meant to do. I mean, what kind of a world would we have? It would be amazing.

[00:27:30] Right? It’d be

[00:27:31] Bob Wheeler: amazing. We’re working towards it. We’re working towards it and

[00:27:35] Roberta Hughes: I believe it’s possible. So that’s why I’m here. That’s my purpose. And it is

[00:27:39] Bob Wheeler: possible. So it’s

[00:27:40] Roberta Hughes: gonna happen. I wanna pioneer that revolution.

[00:27:43] Bob Wheeler: all right, let’s do it. Well, Roberta we’re at the fast five, which is brought to you by cube.

[00:27:51] Cash envelope system made fast, realtime financial awareness without the hassle of tracking expenses and carrying cash. For more information, click [00:28:00] on the show notes. So Roberta fast and furious. Here we go. Have you ever re-gifted a gift and what was it?

[00:28:07] Roberta Hughes: I can’t remember if I have or not, but I’m sure I’ve done plenty of white elephant parties in my past that most of those then became my next white elephant gift.

[00:28:18] Bob Wheeler: what scares you about money? Um,

[00:28:22] Roberta Hughes: that I don’t quite yet know enough and I want to learn more

[00:28:26] Bob Wheeler: curiosity. It’s always good. How do you know if you’ve succeeded? What is success?

[00:28:32] Roberta Hughes: Success is to be able to be the architect of your own time.

[00:28:36] Bob Wheeler: Mm, nice. Would you rather have a job you hate with a really high salary or have a job you love with a below average salary?

[00:28:44] Roberta Hughes: Oh, I struggle. This was one of my things, right. I’m definitely happier and more at peace, struggling at the lower rate than to just show up and do something that I wasn’t meant to do. Yeah.

[00:28:58] Bob Wheeler: So mm-hmm all [00:29:00] right. This one’s a toughie. Is there any one yoga pose that you particularly don’t like?

[00:29:06] Roberta Hughes: Oh, I hate arm balances.

[00:29:08] I love inversions. So I’m not the strongest person. So those are really hard for me. All right. Anything where I can be grounded and connected to the earth I’m in love with .

[00:29:20] Bob Wheeler: That’s great. Thank you for being honest on that. Yeah. We are at our M and M moment, our sweet spot money and motivation. I’m wondering if you have a practical tip or a piece of wealth wisdom that you could share with our listeners.

[00:29:35] Roberta Hughes: Show up and advocate for your value.

[00:29:39] Bob Wheeler: Love it love it. Love it. Well, Roberta, I so appreciate you coming on. And I so appreciate this conversation about mindfulness and awareness. What I’m aware of as we’ve had this conversation is just an openness and a willingness to let life take you where it takes you.

[00:29:58] In other words, the yoga was just [00:30:00] a class. That ended up becoming so much more and hearing about your parents. Like, I just, I really can have a lot of respect for your mom for that tenacity to just like, this is what we’re gonna do and that they sat you down and said, here’s what’s gonna happen. So there was a real consciousness.

[00:30:21] In the way they were talking to their children about what was gonna happen so that wasn’t just blindly like, oh, where’s mom today, right? Yeah. So I really hear that there was a lot of structure and intentionality, even if they didn’t know exactly what was gonna happen and that even though you didn’t get a lot of princess moments yes.

[00:30:40] Hopefully you’re getting some princess moments. Now, you know, that you still walk away with, you know, I got value in that, the teaching and the time with my dad. And so. What I’m hearing is even though it wasn’t named as gratitude yes. And an appreciation for what you had instead of, well, it could have been this and [00:31:00] I could have, should have woulda, but more of, yeah, this was my journey.

[00:31:03] Yeah. And it unfolded as it unfolded and this didn’t work. So I pivoted over here and that willingness to just take it in versus blaming or. Like, why is this happening to me? Or why does my husband have to move all the time? Or like, there’s all these stories that you could have gone into. And I just really continue here, this consciousness, intentionality, and knowing the purpose, knowing why you’re doing what you do.

[00:31:32] And I really hope that more people will check out your website, check in with themselves and start to have some of those five minute Zen moments so that we can all start to have less stress and more peace in our lives because that’s gonna manifest in others and multiply. And so it’s contagious. If we can all learn to be a little bit more ground.

[00:31:56] Roberta Hughes: Yeah. And it’ll change your relationship to money as well. [00:32:00] And that was really a flipping point for me. Once I started thinking about treating my money, the way I treat my body and my health. Mm. Yeah. That was transformative.

[00:32:10] Bob Wheeler: That’s amazing. That is amazing. Yeah. Where can people find you online in social media?

[00:32:15] Roberta Hughes: I’m on Instagram at Roberta underscore peaceful full has two LS living. And then my website is peaceful living.com and you can participate in a variety of ways. What I love to do is when people book a discovery call, that’s where we sit down and have a conversation, and I figure out what tools will fit and how to help you fit them into your life.

[00:32:39] Bob Wheeler: That sounds great. That sounds great. Well, we’ll put all that information up. Roberta. It’s been such a joy having you on today. I so appreciate you taking the time and I hope you have a Zen blissful peaceful weekend.

[00:32:52] Roberta Hughes: wonderful. And if you don’t mind, I would love to offer 30% off to your listeners for any of the services on peaceful living.

[00:32:59] And [00:33:00] we can do money 30 as the code.

[00:33:02] Bob Wheeler: Awesome. We will take money 30 as the code, so, yeah. Beautiful. We will put that out there. Thank you so much. That’s very generous. And thank you again. Thank

[00:33:12] Roberta Hughes: you for having me. I was so happy to be here.

[00:33:22] Bob Wheeler: We hope you enjoyed this episode. Did you learn something new about your relationship to money today? Maybe you have a friend who has some financial blocks or beliefs that are holding them back. Please share this podcast. So they too can get off the rollercoaster ride of financial fears and journey towards financial freedom.

[00:33:37] To learn how to have a healthy relationship with money. Visit the money nerve.com. That’s nerve not nerd. We’ll be back next week with another perspective on money and the emotions that bind us.[00:34:00]

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